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I'm Zack Ellis the founder and CEO of their story. I had the absolute pleasure of auditing Professor Phil Napoli's oral history course this past semester,  so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2.2,25.5"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e I got to learn a lot not just about how their We might be a service to roll historians and to students and to Educators but also actually getting to learn as I was going about oral history as well from an amazing oral historian and professor and Professor Napoli.  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So we'll make it searchable will have the transcript an index to make this all much more accessible and viewable both for anyone who wants to review  things","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=62.1,79.6"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e today or folks that couldn't make the session will also be preserving the recording on their stories permanent dot-org. Archive for preservation one thing that I'm going to mention kind of in framing today's  conversation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=79.6,96.7"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e as well as through the lens of actually a book that has changed my life Joseph Campbell's the hero with a thousand faces. I like to think of our conversation today less of just a presentation but thinking about us maybe as the interviewers with a thousand or maybe  48","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=96.7,116.2"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e faces as the number of participants that we have here. Please feel free. You know, why there while I'm prepared to ask questions for the entirety of our time and kind of interview our cast here. I really encourage and invite you all to chime in at any moment and just unmute yourself and follow your curiosity and ask questions.  And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=116.2,138.5"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e let's do this together is actually an oral history. If you will of the lived experience of rest or Napoli of malka of Xander this past semester and let's let's create a kind of a an oral history together today. So a couple things in terms of housekeeping if you aren't speaking, however, please do it yourself just so we don't have feedback again encourage you to be an active participant in today's  coffee","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=138.5,165.9"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e have a question of something pops up. Let's make sure that this is something that is a creation of all of us, but of course, I'll continue to guide the conversation if we have the need and one thing I would like to do before. Or even have go to introductions and kind of kick things off is to really think about you all and thinking about that idea of making this participatory. I'd like to take maybe just a minute if anyone wants to unmute themselves and say something that they came to this session  in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=165.9,201.6"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e wanting to learn in particular or any open questions that they had so that as well cos Ender as Professor Napoli are kind of talking about The Experience, they can make sure to keep in mind things that you wanted to take away and we can make sure that this is as productive as possible. I know it will be anyways,  but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=201.6,219.1"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e I like to do this at the beginning. So feel free if you want to unmute yourself, I'll pause just to see if we have anyone that wants to share something that they in particular we're interested to learn today. I guess I can go. My name is Danny and I am a third year  PhD","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=219.1,247.2"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e student at Michigan State in the history department. And so right now I'm camping but soon starting this summer. I planning on doing an oral history of restaurant workers in Michigan. And so I'm really here to just learn about your experience and the tools also that you used I haven't heard of any of them. So I'm just interested in learning. Anything that you have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=247.2,271.9"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e to offer it all sounds really interesting. Thank you Danny welcome anyone else have something that they wanted to learn in particular?  Hi","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=271.9,283.6"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e there. Hi Bridget. Hi. I'm a PhD candidate in creative writing at Southampton University in the south of England, but I'm also studying at Cambridge. A A distance learning course on teaching creative writing and I'm particularly interested in teaching or history writing personal and oral histories. So I'm hoping to get actually teaching tips as well as Fantastic. Thank you Bridget.  Tammy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=283.6,319.9"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e I saw you raise your hand. Do you want to share something or just testing out the features? Hey, yeah, sorry I was actually just testing that but I love shortcuts. So I appreciate learning that I'll go ahead and introduce myself. I'm also a PhD candidate actually in cultural anthropology at UK and Zach you and I bet previously doing a bear story demo. So I was actually teaching and ethnographic methods course this spring when everything broke.  So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=319.9,358.1"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm always interested in learning from other people's experience and especially since you and I talked about the development of their story and you know a formal Educational Learning environment post pandemic when people are really struggling on how do we do field work? And how do we continue to do it well, and ethically and robustly in a way where rich storytelling still occurs in deep. Listening still occurs. So thanks for organizing this webinar.  Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=358.1,390.6"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks Timmy good to see you again. And I think ethics is definitely a part that will touch on today as well any others before we kick off the conversation have or team here introduce themselves. Hi, this is Erica Walton from the more free library and Newfane Vermont. We are a recipient of the imls. Accelerating promising practices Grant or a small rural library and  we're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=390.6,420.9"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e doing an oral history project which is underway. We had originally intended to do most of it in person. But now we're doing some of it remotely and we considered but chose not to get their story. However, I'm quite interested in any in, you know, whatever you all have to say about doing remote interviews, but Particularly in transcribing interviews and any best practices or software or ideas that you have for transcription. Great. Thank you.  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And again, please feel free to ask questions as Chime in if there's anything you want to learn for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=459.1,489.8"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e a free to make sure you come away learning it ask away. So. Off we go. So let's start maybe with some introductions mocha. Do you want to introduce yourself? And then pass it off to Xander? And then Professor Napoli will have you kind of introduce yourself and kick off how things started in how we met and how really the course started to take shape for you.  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That would allow me to do the kind of work I needed to do and dissipating that we were all going to be online in the fall and  So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=685.5,711.9"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e I participated in a range of these webinars that were a whole series of them done by Baylor and Columbia had a number of them and I went and I listened around and and on one perhaps zakat was the Baylor one right here was the Baylor. Yeah. Yeah that that posted something in a chat saying, you know, I got this tool that might actually help people do online learning or  Doug","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=711.9,733.7"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e Boyd posted it. Very good and I snagged that thing out of the the chat and put it in my little text box and tried to follow up and of course, I tried to hack his system and couldn't do it, which is good and then ended up writing saying, you know, I'd like to know more and and I guess we we got onto the telephone or maybe with a phone first and then and then  Zoom","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=733.7,759.6"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e to start a conversation. We began to talk. I guess it was probably April it was maybe it was me. The year and and I learned about what the program could do over the course of the summer. We came to an arrangement by which my class would use the the product I became convinced that this was a useful tool for a whole range of reasons, which I can explain and then I began to build it into the syllabus.  The","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=759.6,789.6"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e great privilege was having Zack actually joined the class that meant a lot I think to me. And my estimation is to the students as well. Let's see what else the goals and expectations for the students that I wanted students to record seven hours of oral history remotely or on the telephone. Whichever, it's cool. 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Really are but because there's a barrier between you and the other person you're in your comfort space and so are they it allows for a more freedom of discussion and it's because of that  Comfort","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=1173.5,1202.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e it allows people to share things with you that they may not have shared if in in person interview where they're coming into your space or you're coming into their space. 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Also, you know, for those that are telling me things they've never told anybody and for those that have had to repeat their story Ad nauseam just to get Hope they're trying to get and and and looking at it in a hopefully a more nuanced way than it often does by people that have a little less direct understanding. Right? Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=1371.6,1410.4"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e It sounded like you had initially thought about one Topic in audience and then pivoted to to another and social media was an easy way for you to get narrators Moko for for you. What was your experience like? Reaching out and finding narrators. What what kind of mechanisms did you use to find interviewees? And so I really relied on the pool of people that I knew so I'm a religious Jew that was in context in Brooklyn.  And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=1410.4,1444.1"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e so I wanted to interview I interviewed somebody who has since left the community and I had a co-teacher from a couple of years ago who is now a model and so I spoke with her and Professor Napoli. I was able to connect me with somebody who's a Muslim woman. And so I spoke to her and then I spoke with one of my current co-teachers who is a non-binary person and the last person that I spoke to was my partner in the court.  So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=1444.1,1474.1"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e I kind of worked with in my I tried to work within my circle, but I did try and widen it but I didn't get very many very many leads. So I worked with what I had sure talk a little bit about What the process was like of conducting interviews technologies that you used and kind of the process of going from collection to the final project, which was producing a podcast episode.  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What was your process and and if you What I know to that there is something interesting that happened after your first interview. So if you want to touch on that, but talk a little bit about your process. Absolutely. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=1623.6,1669.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e for me, I knew sort of what I wanted to do early. I knew it had to do with veterans mental health, but I didn't know what was going to make it unique and so realistically my first interview I didn't have my questions in order. I really was more or less unprepared and that being said, I still had a two-and-a-half hour pretty solid interview. With a veteran friend whom I served with and initially I did it. We did it over Facebook.  Actually,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=1669.0,1698.5"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e we did the interview over Facebook. It was the easiest thing for him to use he was on his phone. I hadn't really fully messed with their story yet enough to know how quick and easy it was and so I recorded off of subsequent software. I have open broadcast software if any of you are familiar and so I used open. Software to record the interview over Facebook and we had a good interview.  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I  was still able to cohesively put things together so that when I finally got my computer fixed with maybe 10 days to go before the deadline I was able to again, you know, take everything move it really quickly from their story to audacity which is where I built my project, you know, just Italy click drag Professor Napoli also was able to help me I couldn't pull stuff into our Dropbox for example, because again computer wasn't working  Professor","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=1947.9,1994.5"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e Napoli, you know, hey, just get it uploaded somehow. I got my computer working for 5 minutes. 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However, she wants to know so I think like I explored an Avenue of my own thought while seeing how other people think and that's how I formulated by narratives. That's mastic and maybe Xander talk a little bit about what you feel like you took away you learned and then let's  let's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2643.5,2665.4"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/transcript/21557/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e maybe play some short clips and if we have time would love to show also and I pick story Factor dings. I thought that was a really unique application in use and moments in the class Xander. Go ahead. 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Zander: Fairly heavy testimony, sent forms around, worked well, importance was understood.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2042.0,2172.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interviewing","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH process","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2042.0,2172.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q and A: Professor's comments","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2172.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Background: The listening project/program at Brooklyn College, multi-departmental, got an IRB exemption. Established the forms needed for interviewing. Students needed to address consent before interviewing. Need to know if interviews may be made public. (See syllabus in the comments.) Need great students to start with. Online learning requires more prep, is very different, e.g., setting up audio/video.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2172.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH pedagogy","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"online interviews","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH process","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2172.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q and A: Teaching process or publishing?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2372.0,2515.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Napoli: Both theory and method, taught them about the process, but in order to do something. Recording, writing, 10 page in-depth paper including historical context, was required. To produce something showing what they learned. Clothing, vet mental health, many other topics that spoke to the students. Discusses public access.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2372.0,2515.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH pedagogy","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH process","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2372.0,2515.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Takeaways from the process","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2515.0,2888.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Malkah explored her own feelings on clothing and identity. Explored that with interviewees. (Cites examples of dress and identity.) Xander learned a lot. Interviewing was comfortable, especially for interviewees, being in their own house or environment. He likes to talk, but enjoyed listening, staying out of the way, adjusting how he interacts. Doing as little prompting as possible. All interviews were over 90 min. Even his stoic brother-in-law opened up and he learned things he never had. TS and being remote specifically was advantageous.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2515.0,2888.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH pedagogy","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH process","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interviewing","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TheirStory","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2515.0,2888.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Use of PixStori","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2888.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Malkah on Pixstori assignment, starting with a photo from during isolation. [Shows PixStori, audio: Image of romantic era gown and robe she made after learning to hand sew. (Cotton, silk, linen, purchased a fan.) Learned a life skill. Did photo shoot with brother.] Each person showed their PixStori. They all understood each other better. Happened late in the semester, that was important to creating connection within the class, and made her empathetic to others' COVID experiences.\nXander: That class session was like a group therapy session. Created a close bond. Sharing feelings about a COVID photos. Not a complicated assignment, but everybody put a lot into it. Speaks to the great class and instruction. Doing something new, unique, and a product together. Everyone listened to each other's. \"The best class environment I've had yet.\"\nNapoli: Frisch's PixStori and smart students (+ class dynamics) made it work. Set up \"support\" groups early in the semester. Xander helped others with technology. Bonds were created by the structure and by PixStori--a different model for doing oral history, useful this semester.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2888.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PixStori","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH pedagogy","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH in COVID","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=2888.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Final Comments","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=3360.0,3732.28"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Xander: Plays clip about vets struggle and not finding help. (Plays two example stories.) A good experience with interviewees and TS. Napoli taught them the process, showed examples. He could show a poorly represented group, they gave him the seal of approval in the end. Malkah: Things were well prepared for them. Well supported as interviewers and interviewees (in the PixStory assignment). Napoli acknowledges Zack, as a class member, and his support through TS. Plans to continue to use it in Spring and going forward. Zack: wrap up.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=3360.0,3732.28"},{"id":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004/index/47550/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Veterans","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH process","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OH pedagogy","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TheirStory","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://theirstory.aviaryplatform.com/collections/926/collection_resources/35084/file/104004#t=3360.0,3732.28"}]}]}]}